Starving Children

Let's be honest for once, God is no fucking good. God has no redeeming values. God can end human suffering but he won't. God has unleashed all manner of suffering and torment on his children. God is filthy lying evil. Fuck you God and fuck all of you who suck his dick and kiss his evil ass. God is hate and God is evil. God is a child abuser, God is a cruel tyrant. There is nothing good about God yet there are people who are such ass kissers that they will defend and worship the evil entity known as God.

I'll Believe in God When This Happens

God if it exists is a purely evil bastard.

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Biblical Basis For Calvinism

The Five Points of Calvinism

There are two mains camps of theology within Christianity in America today: Arminianism and Calvinism. Calvinism is a system of biblical interpretation taught by John Calvin. Calvin lived in France in the 1500's at the time of Martin Luther who sparked the Reformation.

The system of Calvinism adheres to a very high view of scripture and seeks to derive its theological formulations based solely on God’s word. It focuses on God’s sovereignty, stating that God is able and willing by virtue of his omniscience, omnipresence, and omnipotence, to do whatever He desires with His creation. It also maintains that within the Bible are the following teachings: That God, by His sovereign grace predestines people into salvation; that Jesus died only for those predestined; that God regenerates the individual where he is then able and wants to choose God; and that it is impossible for those who are redeemed to lose their salvation.

Arminianism, on the other hand, maintains that God predestined, but not in an absolute sense. Rather, He looked into the future to see who would pick him and then He chose them. Jesus died for all peoples' sins who have ever lived and ever will live, not just the Christians. Each person is the one who decides if he wants to be saved or not. And finally, it is possible to lose your salvation (some arminians believe you cannot lose your salvation).
Basically, Calvinism is known by an acronym: T.U.L.I.P.

Total Depravity (also known as Total Inability and Original Sin)
Unconditional Election
Limited Atonement (also known as Particular Atonement)
Irresistible Grace
Perseverance of the Saints (also known as Once Saved Always Saved)

These five categories do not comprise Calvinism in totality. They simply represent some of its main points.
 
Total Depravity:
Sin has affected all parts of man. The heart, emotions, will, mind, and body are all affected by sin. We are completely sinful. We are not as sinful as we could be, but we are completely affected by sin.
The doctrine of Total Depravity is derived from scriptures that reveal human character: Man’s heart is evil (Mark 7:21-23) and sick Jer. 17:9). Man is a slave of sin (Rom. 6:20). He does not seek for God (Rom. 3:10-12). He cannot understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14). He is at enmity with God (Eph. 2:15). And, is by nature a child of wrath (Eph. 2:3). The Calvinist asks the question, "In light of the scriptures that declare man’s true nature as being utterly lost and incapable, how is it possible for anyone to choose or desire God?" The answer is, "He cannot. Therefore God must predestine."
Calvinism also maintains that because of our fallen nature we are born again not by our own will but God’s will (John 1:12-13); God grants that we believe (Phil. 1:29); faith is the work of God (John 6:28-29); God appoints people to believe (Acts 13:48); and God predestines (Eph. 1:1-11; Rom. 8:29; 9:9-23).

 
Unconditional Election:
God does not base His election on anything He sees in the individual. He chooses the elect according to the kind intention of His will (Eph. 1:4-8; Rom. 9:11) without any consideration of merit within the individual. Nor does God look into the future to see who would pick Him. Also, as some are elected into salvation, others are not (Rom. 9:15, 21).
 
Limited Atonement:
Jesus died only for the elect. Though Jesus’ sacrifice was sufficient for all, it was not efficacious for all. Jesus only bore the sins of the elect. Support for this position is drawn from such scriptures as Matt. 26:28 where Jesus died for ‘many'; John 10:11, 15 which say that (Jesus died for the sheep (not the goats, per Matt. 25:32-33); John 17:9 where Jesus in prayer interceded for the ones given Him, not those of the entire world; Acts 20:28 and Eph. 5:25-27 which state that the Church was purchased by Christ, not all people; and Isaiah 53:12 which is a prophecy of Jesus’ crucifixion where he would bore the sins of many (not all).
 
Irresistible Grace:
When God calls his elect into salvation, they cannot resist. God offers to all people the gospel message. This is called the external call. But to the elect, God extends an internal call and it cannot be resisted. This call is by the Holy Spirit who works in the hearts and minds of the elect to bring them to repentance and regeneration whereby they willingly and freely come to God. Some of the verses used in support of this teaching are Romans 9:16 where it says that "it is not of him who wills nor of him who runs, but of God who has mercy"; Philippians 2:12-13 where God is said to be the one working salvation in the individual; John 6:28-29 where faith is declared to be the work of God; Acts 13:48 where God appoints people to believe; and John 1:12-13 where being born again is not by man’s will, but by God’s.

“All that the Father gives Me shall come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out," (John 6:37).
 
Acts 13:48 "And as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

"Rom.8:29-30 "For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate.... Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified."
 
Eph.1:4-5 "He hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will."

2 Th.2:11-12 "God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned."

2 Tim.1:9 "Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began."

Jude 1:4 "For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation.

Perseverance of the Saints:
You cannot lose your salvation. Because the Father has elected, the Son has redeemed, and the Holy Spirit has applied salvation, those thus saved are eternally secure. They are eternally secure in Christ. Some of the verses for this position are John 10:27-28 where Jesus said His sheep will never perish; John 6:47 where salvation is described as everlasting life; Romans 8:1 where it is said we have passed out of judgment; 1 Corinthians 10:13 where God promises to never let us be tempted beyond what we can handle; and Phil. 1:6 where God is the one being faithful to perfect us until the day of Jesus’ return.

God is the Deceiver, not Satan/Lucifer

No matter how hard Christians try to deny it, the God that they worship is an unmitigated liar. What Lucifer is alleged to have done in the garden of Eden was give Adam and Eve knowledge. Up until then. they were God's little playthings. Adam and Eve did not know right from wrong so how could they know if God was trustworthy. After they ate from the tree of knowledge God had a hissy fit. In fact, God was so pissed off at Adam and Eve that he cursed all humanity with misery, disease, and death. That was not Satan's idea, all that was God's doing... God's evildoing.

The Bible has incident after incident of God getting angry and going on bloody killing sprees. If God is not doing the actual killing with floods, pestilence, fire, tornadoes or packs of animals he is ordering his children to kill others of his children. Somehow, God never kills bad people during his killing sprees. He could've easily destroyed Satan when Satan rebelled in heaven and he could've easily killed Cain for killing Abel. But to God offending him bothers him a lot more than if we kill or maim one of his children. What a douche bag!

God's lies are prolific and legendary. God deliberately deceives his children so that they will fail and be sent to his eternal torment. God feigns ignorance and tests his children as he did with Job and Abraham simply to prove a point to his adversary Satan. God claims to be honest and just and Satan would know if God were indeed honest just so there would be no reason for Satan not to believe God and therefore no need for God's cruel and ego gratifying demonstrations  And if his lying is not enough he sends his son to spread a plethora of lies and deception. 

1 Kings 22:23

Now, therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee.

2 Chronicles 18:22

Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets.

Jeremiah 4:10

Ah, Lord GOD! surely thou hast greatly deceived this people.

Jeremiah 20:7

O Lord, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived.

Ezekiel 14:9

And if a prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet.

2 Thessalonians 2:11

For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.

I found the following on a religious discussion board that illustrates that Satan is quite different than God and while Satan may not be the good guy God most definitely is the bad guy.

God is the Deceiver, not Satan/Lucifer/However you choose to call him

If you take the enormous tribute to atrocity that some call the "Holy Bible" literally, God created two humans in a world where Good and Evil exist, but he told them nothing of it, and demanded they never try to learn anything of it. He also commanded his other creations, who knew more and were older, to basically drop everything and care for these ignorant creatures.

So one guy gets fed up with this idea, decides that they're not so great and neither is the totalitarian politician of a father he's living under, and does something. He doesn't even like these things at first, but they should at least know something about the world they're living in, and what exists in it. So he gives the chick some fruit that will show her the way, he gives her education and light about the full circle of the world and the knowledge that she lives among.

She needs to share this with her still-ignorant husband and she does. He too becomes educated. This is a bad thing, according to God. Educating yourself in all things and the idea that he may create something bad is wrong. So is being aware of these fact and of yourself. So what does he do? He banishes his pretty little creatures and starts sexism, xenophobia, and genocide for all.

You can't call the flood or Sodom and Gomorrah anything but genocide. He didn't like what people were doing with their lives, so he massacred them all. He thinks it is okay to force your beliefs down the throats of others and you're only a good person if you do things HIS way. That's fundamentally impossible, by the way, if you understand the human condition at all!

Satan, what does he do? Not much after Eden. In some versions, he even continues to serve and punish all the souls God finds bad. In others, he just wants souls to be his. If that's the case, Hell's a lot less racist, homophobic and small-minded than heaven. More interesting, too. Nice to meet ya, Marquis de Sade. :P

Job was an attempt to show a man that God isn't gonna save him no matter how miserable he gets. That the big guy in the sky isn't nearly so great as you might think. He even wanted a guy who was the biggest god fangirl ever, who was STARVING HIMSELF IN THE DAMN DESERT to realize that it doesn't have to be the way god says. Is it really so wrong to suggest a question of faith? Or to offer a guy stranded in the desert food and water?

How many people does Satan commit genocide upon? How many does he deceive for the purpose of wanting to look good? How many people does he banish for having an opinion, huh?

Yes, I think he's the good guy, if you haven't guessed, and God is the bad guy. But, then again, you're asking a Luciferian.

Satan Good God Evil

God vs Satan

God

•God takes away Adam and Eve's eternal life, thus committing the first murder, and holds their descendants responsible and visiting Adam and Eve's punishment down on their children. In today's moral standards, the sins of the father die with the father.

•God destroys all life on Earth in a great flood, except for a drunk (Noah) and his family, for failing to worship him.

•God's tenth plague upon the Israelites was the unjustified murder of all firstborn sons in Egypt, which undoubtedly included little children.

•Before sending the plagues to Egypt, God "hardened Pharaoh's heart" so that he wouldn't let the Israelites go, so he could have an excuse to visit horrible plagues upon them, like boils, killing cattle and murdering all firstborn sons. (Exodus 4:21)

•God orders the Levites to kill their "every man and his neighbor" for worshiping another god. This cost 3000 lives. (Exodus 32:27)

•God sends a plague to the Israelites, apparently feeling that mass-butchery wasn't enough of a punishment. (Exodus 32:35)

•God kills Onan for refusing to impregnate his late brother's (whom God also slew) wife and instead "spilling his seed on the ground." (Genesis 38:8-10)

•God kills the entire populations of Sodom and Gomorrah (again, including women, children and infants) for practicing certain sexual techniques.

•God gives all Philistines hemorrhoids in their pubic areas. (1 Samuel 5:9)

•God kills over 50,000 people for looking at the ark of the covenant. (1 Samuel 6:19)

•God kills 70,000 people because King David decided to have a census. (1 Chronicles 21:7-14)

•God approves of slavery, and instructs owners to beat their slaves. (Proverbs 29:19)

•And, finally, God makes sure that if you are guilty of even the smallest transgression, you shall suffer endlessly for all eternity, following a dramatic homecoming for Jesus, who will be extremely pissed off at everyone for putting him to death, even though it was just the Romans and even though he knew what was going to happen beforehand, and he could have easily avoided it by using his power as God to perform a miracle and prove who he was. (See the entire book of Revelation)
 

Satan

•Satan, like Prometheus, gave knowledge to humanity by giving Eve the fruit from the forbidden tree. Because of Satan, humanity gained knowledge of good and evil, according to Genesis. Since we couldn't have possessed knowledge of good and evil before eating the fruit, Adam and Eve couldn't have known that eating the fruit was evil, so it seems a little harsh to punish them as severely as God did. Satan gave humans true capacity for moral judgment, unlike God, who simply expected everyone to mindlessly obey his orders.

•There is no biblical record of Satan engaging in the murder or torture of any human being, unlike God, who is guilty (and proudly guilty) of committing genocide.

•There is no biblical record of Satan ever ordering someone to kill someone else, unlike God, who has repeatedly demanded the deaths of those who commit even the smallest of offenses.

•Satan will not be holding a massively dramatic ceremony full of blood and death for the return of his son to Earth. God apparently will.

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Their is not much known about Satan and his side of the story. Why was God trying to keep knowledge from us? The knowledge of good and evil? With out it we have no choices. No opposites just one path. Maybe God is the deceiver and Satan was trying to expose him. Kind of like how we are trying to expose the powers that be and they are calling us terrorist.

33million deaths attributed to God.